Maybe that’s because (get this) it wasn’t the sun? this is amazing The only way Cell wins is if you think he’s leagues above Meta Cooler and go by scaling, which is unfair as again the movie characters are from a different canon than the main story. The following tropes have appeared here. There is a fairly large power gap between Meta Cooler and Cell, but the problem is that Meta Cooler can make literal thousands of copies of himself, all with good regen, adaptation and his power level. This is regular perfect cell vs 100% 4th form frieza and 5th form cooler.gieti star cooler can be used too if so needed be. Like, where is it? I didn’t say this either, I’ve only said that by statements only can you argue Cell can bust a solar system level. Cooler picked a fight with a star and only one of them came out unscathed in the next scenes and following movie. So do tell, what of his oh so special techniques will help him here? The sun is still there after the attack and it’s still around in the next movie, it was just a big explosion in space that didn’t even harm Earth or any other celestial body. Cooler was getting stomped by a weaker ssj Goku, Meta Cooler was no selling attacks from a stronger ssj Goku and Goku/Vegeta as super saiyan barely managed to put down a single Meta Cooler. We literally see the sun right after said explosion, so it’s clear it wasn’t intended to be the sun. But Cell? The fact that this is Perfect Cell and Meta Cooler(Perfect Cell being weaker than Super Perfect, and Meta Cooler> Cooler) they should at worst be at a similar level is all I’ve said. ** He suffers another one from GT Kid Goku in "Perfect Cell Vs GT Goku" and Goku", which leaves him in a wheelchair. What has Cooler done that’s above anything Cell did? Multi form technique? Even if we assume Cooler is close enough in stats Cell can just self-destruct, regen and get a zenkai boost and there's not much Cooler can do to counter that. They’re different versions of the characters entirely, same is the case here. And as for this. @thewatcherking: You keep talking about Cooler having some kind of feats that put him above Cell, and I just don’t agree with where you’re coming from. Perfect Cell VS Meta Cooler w/ Big Gheti Star 76 results; 1; 2; Warcry80. Even if the Big Gete Star captured him, why can’t he blow it up the same way Goku and Vegeta did? I understand how crazy this sounds(Meta Cooler beating Cell) but by feats I don’t think Cell is superior. Frieza is a Joke after his arc he would just be in the way.. Cooler would lose shortly after cell shoots an energy blast at frieza. DevilArtemis @DevilArtemis. tremors. Reviews: 0. They are not different versions of the characters at all, they are the same characters set at the same time period but in an alternate dimension. literally thousands of clones of himself with the big gete star, Cooler could do it too and you can’t prove cell can survive. It’s debatable imo. Cooler Solos. best. Because Cooler never told us how much stronger he was and Goku & Vegeta’s difference in power from the previous movie isn’t mentioned. But this is an alternate continuity we’re talking about, movie Goku=/= Canon Goku, you can’t scale Cell and cooler anymore than you can scale MCU Thanos to 616 Thor via beating MCU Thor. "I'm not into RPG's." @majinblackheart: Thanks for unlocking this, I mean I did ask the op to make this thread so I could debate this because I knew everyone would disagree with me that this is debatable. save hide report. @thewatcherking: Cell matching a super Saiyan 2 puts him way ahead of Coola who lost to two unmastered super saiyans. @thewatcherking: cooler is not more powerful than cell and doesn't have better feats, the movies aren’t canon and don’t match up with the actual canon story but Goku and vegeta weren’t mastered super Saiyans in that movie because it takes place before the cell saga and if your wondering about the clone thing cell would just destroy the star and that would ultimately kill Cooler. DBZ characters are notorious for not having feats they should be capable of. Having not been born with the same extreme power of his younger brother, Cooler developed an intense sibling rivalry with him, training and ultimately discovering a new transformation with the sole purpose of surpassing and defeating him. "That was very descriptive…" Kermit commented, questioning Cell's sanity. If the self destruct function inside Semi-Perfect Cell was strong enough to kill a Mastered Super Saiyan Goku, I feel like the self destruct function inside Perfect Cell could be way more colossal but eh that’s just speculation. From there you just have to take into consideration he has thousands of clones all operating at the same level(capable of adapting to attacks making him harder to hurt)and I fail to see how this is a stomp. Golden Perfect Cell stomps. All that actually exists for Cooler is a statement from himself that he was going to blow up the star before he realized he was heading straight for it (kind of like what you’re arguing that Cell is only Solar System Level by statement). I never said it was as good as Cell’s though Cooler was shown adapting mid blast, Vegeta going all out with Goku simply killed him before he could do it. He’d think to do it just like they did. ed edd edd comics and storys. A quite music was playing as a blond man was walking home carrying Katsu sandwich, but found himself in the arena. Instant Transmission (which Cell has too). Golden Metal Cooler is a lot more powerful than any transformation of Cell, he would destroy him completely, and Cooler in general has defeated more dangerous enemies as well such as Bojack, Kanba and Laggs in Dragon Ball Heroes. William is a version of a character named William Dumbar where X.A.N.A. Well he's wrong. Sure. You should totally subscribe to the channel if you haven't already. I take the movies as “stories in a different dimension from the main story of the comic”. Just like the difference between Cell and Cooler. I’m mostly just arguing against Cell stomping, I think this match is debatable. Geti Star might beat regular Perfect Cell because of the Instant Transmission. He bumps onto Cell. Reduced to nothing but a small portion of his former self and left to float around in space powerless until the chip that was forming the Big Gete Star happened to come upon what was left of him. Why? Why couldn’t Cell just completely wipe out multiple of these slow-walking Cooler clones at the same time? But we can scale them. Win or lose, Cell isn’t stomping. Imperfect Cell at the peak of his power would stomp Meta Cooler. Almost a curbstomp. Add to Favourites. Also, his regeneration is vastly superior. Press J to jump to the feed. He’s a way smarter fighter and has way more skill to draw from. Meta cooler is imperfect cell level at most,mismatch. Now I’ve already admitted, I don’t think Cell can take out 1,000 Meta-Coolers at the same time. Close • Posted by 8 minutes ago. save hide report. @thewatcherking: Cooler has versatility? I am giving Cell the benefit of the doubt in his super Perfect state, and assuming he is solar system level despite not having any feats to back it up. All of Cell’s techniques are pretty much useless, special beam canon or destructo disk? No one can prove Cell is as casual a star buster as Cooler, because he has no feats to justify it. Cooler by feats is even more powerful than Cell, in the Revenge of Cooler, Goku sent Cooler’s attack into a star which blew up as a result. This is honestly best case scenario, because if you don’t factor in Cell’s statement then Cell is unquantifiably above planet level, while Cooler is still star level at least. 4,227 Followers / 0 Following. There is no proof Cell is vastly more powerful, and even if he did find the Big Gete Star and somehow knew it was connected to Cooler so what? Kaiba: My name is Seto Kaiba and I want a rematch! Cell vs Seto Kaiba part 2 (Raid Shadow Legends ad) "Why is this game everywhere?" If Meta Cooler and Cell are comparable at all in power Cell shouldn’t be able to take all of meta coolers on at once, he would either get killed or defeated and drained for the big gete star. Nothing would stop him. William and I've been waiting for a Year or so just to see this happen which why I chose this unfamiliar character and not someone people know was for a pretty good reason which was X.A.N.A. Cell vs Todoroki "So, the arena is still empty?" You can’t use Broly’s feats in debate with cell, no more than you can with cooler. Not trying to step on toes so PM me if you have an issue. Super Perfect Cell is a solar system buster. Considering this, if this Cooler were to get any assistance from Frieza, they could probably take out Cell. https://www.kanzenshuu.com/translations/daizenshuu-6-akira-toriyama-super-interview/. even if Cell fights normal SSJ1 if you make 1000s of them cell would still be overwhelm. I’ll just reiterate why I am not going by the in universe scaling everyone else is. The movies are canon to GT as seen when Cooler himself appears in GT, Goku from the movie timeline is definitely a different version of Goku than the one from the main series. log in sign up. Each time the gete star sees a flaw in cooler it repairs the flaw. His ability to adapt to attacks and repair whatever is wrong with him is hard to deal with, as this means he gets harder and harder to beat each time you fail to kill him. His regeneration was surprisingly slow in quite a few scenes, and his adaptation ability didn’t stop Goku and Vegeta from killing him by simply hitting him harder. Log in or sign up to leave a comment log in sign up. Also, his regeneration is vastly superior. The fact that movie characters also showcase greater feats just seals the deal as I see it, if the movies were canon to the main series scaling would be fine. Cooler just doesn’t look anywhere near as impressive as you keep suggesting. You're one of those emo, silent type, anime clichés. Did I not already say that cell doesn’t scale above Goku and Vegeta due to that? Cell would annihilate them both. DevilArtemis Perfect Cell vs Yoshikage Kira. 670 deviations. Like, where is it? Like I said above Cooler has instant transmission , I can’t see Cell taking on thousands clones of a character comparable in power that can all teleport for faster combat speed. 0 comments. Yang said. Cell just gets swarmed under. 76 Favourites. He’s definitely stronger than 17 and 18, I’ll give him that. Comment. Since we’re looking at these as two completely different canons, then there’s no way of quantifying it. Perfect Cell Vs Ugandan Knuckles. Can we answer the question of how much stronger? Animation How to download SFM Assets Tutorials Dbz animation behind the scenes Nappa When it’s time to watch dragonball Get App . Cell can one shot them all with a kamehameha. I agree it would be more powerful due to being perfect Cell here too, I don’t see what’s stopping any of the meta coolers from simply teleporting him away though like Goku did. His regeneration was surprisingly slow in quite a few scenes, and his adaptation ability didn’t stop Goku and Vegeta from killing him by simply hitting him harder. If nothing else we can at least agree on that, meaning this isn’t the stomp people have been saying it is. Is this regular Perfect Cell or Ultra Perfect Cell? Now you make a fair point, Meta-Cooler is substantially stronger than normal Cooler and Goku & Vegeta are definitely stronger in that movie than Goku was in the first movie. Forum Posts. But considering there are feats that are in the movies that aren’t replicated in the main canon, which can’t be scaled due to characters literally existing in separate canons from each other it’s not fair to scale the movies to the main canon. And I know in earlier comments to other users, you said something like “Cooler’s attack blew up the sun”, but that isn’t even true. You keep talking about Cooler having some kind of feats that put him above Cell, and I just don’t agree with where you’re coming from. 347 Cooler wins imo, in a decent fight. Copied; Likes (21) Followers. Lol? Cooler just doesn’t look anywhere near as impressive as you keep suggesting. He’s got their personalities and their abilities inside of him. It’s not as if there aren’t billions of other stars in this galaxy alone. If you don't know who Devilartemis is, he is doing "Perfect Cell VS" fights continuing where TFS left off with The Deadpool one. Just because it is it’s own alternate movie continuity does not mean the power levels differentiate. Do they look stronger? Perfect Cell Vs Kermit Rap Battle 6 months ago 131,384 Views DevilArtemis. Follow 2308. Frieza and cooler. Cell would destroy both of them with ease. Who has he ever beat that’s better than Cell or even close to as good? User account menu • Cell vs. Bayonetta (Ft. Bulma Bunny) By Ogunarts01 Watch. Just like the difference between Cell and Cooler. Was stronger than SSJ1 Goku and Vegeta before going into the Hyperbolic Time Chamber. Alright so when I found out about DevilArtemis taking suggestions, I suggested him to do Perfect Cell Vs X.A.N.A. 01:49. He has thousands of clones to stop the big gete star from being destroyed, can teleport(and use it in combat unlike Cell did) and is at worst similar in power. Cooler does have better feats. I agree with a lot of what you’ve said, and I really feel like you and I could come to some kind of understanding. Turns out Frieza trains for 4 months and crushes Cell like a gnat. He got turned into nothing but a head after being sent into the sun. He bumps onto Cell. I only had Perfect cell in mind since all I would hear with Super Perfect Cell is “he’s solar system level and one shots ez”. @thewatcherking: how much stronger do you actually think Super Perfect Cell is over Perfect Cell? r/DevilArtemisUniverse: Community for the Devil Artemis YT Channel. Reduced to nothing but a small portion of his former self and left to float around in space powerless until the chip that was forming the Big Gete Star happened to come upon what was left of him. "It looks cool." Cell godstomps these guys in all forms fused together. Since we’re looking at these as two completely different canons, then there’s no way of quantifying it. Press question mark to learn the rest of the keyboard shortcuts. The same Goku couldn’t even beat a suppressed Perfect Cell. If Meta Cooler and Cell are comparable at all in power Cell shouldn’t be able to take all of meta coolers on at once, he would either get killed or defeated and drained for the big gete star. Can't locate mod who locked this but I say let them debate since a decent argument is being made. Follow/Fav DevilArtemis Cell Vs: Fanfiction Edition. (Some videos may not be appropriate for young … Are you serious? In the Netflix series they reference the avengers and the events of the movies but the Netflix character do not exist in the movies. D&D Beyond Perfect Cell Vs SSJ4 Vegeta. But sure, this is meta Cooler regardless. Lol PERFECT Cell vs Meta Cooler??? I'm inclined to believe that given the spikes in power levels in Dragon Ball, no villain from a previous arc could defeat a villain from a later arc. Why couldn’t Cell just completely wipe out multiple of these slow-walking Cooler clones at the same time? Nothing special about them, and won’t be helpful. avgn vs nc. Please explain why you think so, I’m willing to debate with anyone that thinks it’s a stomp in Cell’s favor. Kermit the Frog asked Cell. Funny. Even if destroying a solar system isn’t 1000x greater than star busting, which is how many clones Cooler can easily make(all of which are star level). And I don’t have to use in-series scaling. cell wouldnt be killed as long as his brain was in tactand you have to rmember cell was created from the cells of the strongest fightersand if i'm not mistaken goku fought cooler on earth once, http://www.comicvine.com/forums/gen-discussion/1/dbz-knowledge-facts/26618/. Personally I think they’re a little short but enjoyable, and although it started off as a parody of TeamFourStar’s “Cell Games”, it’s evolved enough to become its own distinct series. © 2020 GAMESPOT, A RED VENTURES COMPANY. It won’t work on Meta Cooler. Well the events in the main series still occur in the movies(it’s just not try vice versa) but sure, I don’t want it to seem like I want it both ways so whatever. Also you make it seem as though Cell has feats of tanking supernovas, which he doesn’t. Here are as many as I could be bothered to post. Hell, maybe you’re right, maybe Cell can’t last through 1,000 Meta-Coolers, but you aren’t convincing me so far that he can’t at least kill a number of them or blow up the Big Gete Star. 123 Views. Are they probably stronger? Even if the Big Gete Star captured him, why can’t he blow it up the same way Goku and Vegeta did? He’s got their personalities and their abilities inside of him. 38 deviations. And even if you do that’s only Super Perfect Cell and not Perfect Cell prior to his zenkai boost. ok time to boost it up a notch or two...CYBROG FRIEZA & GEITI STAR COOLERFULL POWER. But to that I say, why not? What is your personal stance on Dragon Ball’s theatrical films, Sensei? I agree with you, the Coolers probably could just Instant Transmission Cell away like Goku did, but Cell would just come back and absorb the knowledge of Instant Transmission just like he did in DBZ. He’s definitely stronger than 17 and 18, I’ll give him that. but if the big gete star is involved , he'd go down. Also, his regeneration is vastly superior. Cell has all of Frieza’s techniques (which are most of the same techniques that Cooler uses) and he has all of Goku’s, Piccolo’s, Tien’s, Vegeta’s, and more. The sun being there afterwards just means it wasn’t the sun. I said Cooler has a star level feat before becoming Meta Cooler, meanwhile the best we have for Cell is that he states he’s solar system level while Super Perfect. log in sign up. But I can’t get past these supposed feats you think exist that put Meta-Coolers over Cell. As I’ve said it’s adaptation, his body repairs itself and any flaws in his body that allowed him to be damaged are corrected.Meaning he’ll again just be getting harder and harder to beat as the fight goes on.